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Shell
02-10-2012, 09:58 AM
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Greetings MAYN Gamer,

The recent changes to the ACP was due to a group of Sky Clan warriors who had transferred to Tiger Clan. In order to balance the clan, we have an option to rollback all Sky Players to Original Clan.

During the balancing period, Sky Clan will be remaining close. We will either reopen standard Sky Transfer System or utilize a Restricted Transfer Manual to allow players for transfer.

Please note that we are currently seeking feedback on weather if this will be a good idea. Please post your thoughts and opinions below in the following format:

[ Sample Feedback Post ]

I, [Polaris], [Level 196], [Clan Xenian], vote FOR / AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)
2)
3)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)
2)
3)

We thank you for helping make TwelveSky 2 an exciting place to play in!

Thank you.

PrettyBoi1
02-10-2012, 10:17 AM
I, [Saxon], [R6], [Clan tiger], vote FOR Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)the inactive would be removed which result sky having clan buffs (as its ment to be)
2)sky wouldn't be a afk trash can anymore
3)a new transfer system( would be good if high cp based) would help keeping sky clean of alt chars

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)base clans would be full of alts but as the points of sky would probably be the lowest and system if by. Cp clans wouldn't have to worry about not beeing able to join sky for a long time and as of that would be no need for putting alt in sky as price would be high
2)Would still need to watch the acp list in eye because of clan buffs sky would be a very desired destination
3)

Powerstorm
02-10-2012, 10:42 AM
I, [Powerstom], [Level r12], [Clan Tigers], vote FOR Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)We can see what clan ruined the game sending continuosly alts to Sky Clan
2)It's time to make a new Transfer System
3)Banned and inactive players will be a burden for their own original clan

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)No reason
2)No reason
3)No reason

After this,a good Manual transfer,cause alts can be deleted with a simple ticket.
Let the players inactive,alts,etc etc choose if infect their original clan with fake Clan Points or send 1 ticket to delete them.

kuroki1
02-10-2012, 10:55 AM
I, [Rebi], [D12 - R0], [Clan Dragon], vote FOR / AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) It will act as a (not so) new beginning for MAYNs TS2.
2)
3)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) The real SKY players will have to work hard again to get the requirement to transfer to sky clan.
2)
3)

doroteo
02-10-2012, 11:11 AM
I, [dorotheo], [R1], [Snake Clan], vote FOR Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)Atm sky clan has many fake points so they won`t get clan buffs cuz of it.
2)
3)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)Would be bad only if you guys allow everyone to join in again, so the fake points will go back where they were...So i`m pro for a new clan transfer.
2)It would be bad if you transfer the baned players also... cuz in that case you give the other clans fake points.
3)Again, players need alts in all clans, for deals mostly, so many alts will be roled back from sky, you should make the delete character over lvl 40 free untill we get rid of the undesired alts.

cecenia
02-10-2012, 11:12 AM
Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)maybe will be no more alts...who fk clan
2)clan will be clean...and can start everything from 0.....
3 and ..will be better...if transfer to skyclan will be about lvl...or a hight cp.........or activity in game....


Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)...i think will be verry bad..because other clans tiger snake dragons..will be full of alts.. ......

2)will take alot of time like us ....to can go back to sky..........
3)and.....idk....sky will be never...after.......and let dont forget...is Rise of Sky clan...not Rise of ALts clan........



In the and...i hope like...Sky to be the old power....of game...because is Rise of Sky clan.......



DO NOT LET SKY DYE.........

3)

postonforums
02-10-2012, 11:14 AM
Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)
2)
3)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)Skyes will be at the lowest clan points like for forever that means perm clanbuffs for them.
2)Snakes will ahve the highest clan points again = Onyl snakes can join again thats almost for perm time again.
3)Players from "Tiger" clan will xfer their chars to Snakes b4 its gets the alts from sky rerolled then again we will have
an overpopulated overpowered clan only diff they will wear hats then.

marshall331
02-10-2012, 11:26 AM
I, [xXLairishXx], [Level R6], [Clan Sky!], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.(unless i can stay)
Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)get rid of alts
2)clan buffs
3)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) ive been sky 2 years + i dont like snakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2)i want to stay sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3)all my mains are in sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4)LEAVE ME IN SKY!!!!!!!!!!
5) if u kick me i want to be allowed back in no matter what on my sky accounts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6)did i mention i dont want to leave sky?

TheCrow331
02-10-2012, 11:28 AM
I, [thecrow33], [Level D12 R2], [Clan Sky], vote FOR / AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)alts disapear from sky
2)the ppl who realy play and want to be sky come in new clan
3)find a good metod to move ppl in sky

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)i dont want to live from sky...:) if im just the only one i want to stay here, till the new sky come(or the old one)
2)
3)

sobsket
02-10-2012, 11:33 AM
I, [SkeTcHeR], [Level R1], [Clan Royal Snake], vote FOR Sky Rollback.
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) Clans will be more balanced than they are atm.
2) Sky can get rid of all the alts that shouldn`t be there in the first place.
3) People will work hard to go into Sky Clan again like it was meant to be, sky clan is only for those that achieved a certain knowledge of the game and level.

Cons:
1) No argument.
2) No argument.
3) No argument.

If i may add some personal opinions,
1) I would say that we need a different Sky joining system. maybe a certain ammount of CP, a certain ammount of Merit points to prove that they are active and a bigger lvl achievement to avoid Sky Clan being invaded with alts just for the " hat look "
2) We need to have all clans closed for a while after and if Sky complete rollback is done, at least one month for clans to actually work in order to join Sky Clan.
Thank you for this idea and thread.

Moirae
02-10-2012, 11:36 AM
Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)get rid of alts
2)clan buffs
3)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) ive been sky 2 years + i dont like snakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2)i want to stay sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3)all my mains are in sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4)LEAVE ME IN SKY!!!!!!!!!!
5) if u kick me i want to be allowed back in no matter what on my sky accounts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6)did i mention i dont want to leave sky?

lol look at ur siggy looks like a rainbow :D

marshall331
02-10-2012, 12:03 PM
hehe its sxy and i know it :) anyways i think if u clear out sky let the loyal skys back in at no cost like a garanteed spot for our accounts!

atfong1
02-10-2012, 01:06 PM
I, [Atlasf], [Level R1], [Clan Tiger], vote FOR Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) It will be interesting to have a 3 side battle to balance things out easier rather then now one side is left out. A triangle is much easier then a square in sides of battle. So then if only 3 clan do you attack or do you defend no longer a one on one side battle. Need to consider if you att another will att u. More interesting in fact to att or def.
2) It will create more people to fight on more greatly rather then scattered all across so many maps
3) It will be greater interaction for all players to stay more focused. More interesting and greater numbers in town

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) Some players may be too loyal to sky clan
2) The title needs to be changed "Death or fall of sky Clan"
3) Nil

Thank you.

Mar42
02-10-2012, 01:30 PM
1,( marce3472 ) , ( R2 ) , ( skyclan ) VOTE AGAINST SKY ROLLBACK

1)I only belong to Sky clan
2)I'm in the game for a year and a half, go to sky clan a4, I am a sky, not want to go to any clan, although I remain alone
3)I am a married woman, I have 3 children, this game is my hobby
4)I am very sad with what is happening
5)I can hardly keep my items
6)Mr. GM:
I ask you to have consideration for my post, I never did rollback, I was always fighting for my clan here, to me is not just a game, are my friends every day, I share my life with them, I have fun, I laugh, I do not want to stop playing,
if they send me my clan, I will not play , and many people will do the same,
I hope your approach to solve this problem without removing the active sky,
the people who are now in sky clan are the true sky
leave my kindest greetings all
Marcela Vera ( marce3472)

MeLLoncoTTon
02-10-2012, 03:05 PM
[Pecky], [Level D4], [Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

***Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...

1)Cleaning: inactive/banned/Alts players , our clan points would be the real ones so... we'll get the clan buffs
2) i will stick together with my friends anyways xD
3)i don't know... if it would be good to increase the level to join sky clan, maybe help ... not sure, but the system need a change

***Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...

1)i don't feel comfortable... at snake clan, that's the reason because i'm sky and i don't regreat my desition.
2) Dragons will be the weakest clan once more, not many ex dragons remain at Sky clan
3)I'm not 100% sure, that you give priority to the ex-players of clan sky(no afk alts) to return , so i guess that we have to wait a long time to back...
4) i'm sure that i won't help snakes ....

maybe i'm wrong ... but guess it's not the solution....
a lot of times Sky clan, had hard times, only a few players in hsb, wars,so on.... and although everything we went afloat, if we could do before ... why we couldnt now?
if you can... try to find another way, to delete the inactive players... if can't, well.. we got just bad luck.

umm... well thanks for ask our opinions

fue
02-10-2012, 03:26 PM
I, [fuee], [R6], [Clan Dragon], vote FOR Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)No planned HSB's anymore
2)Cleaning clan of alts
3)Chance of other players join sky clan in future.

fue
02-10-2012, 03:26 PM
[Pecky], [Level D4], [Clan Sky], vote FOR / AGAINST Sky Rollback.

***Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...

1)Cleaning: inactive/banned/Alts players , our clan points would be the real ones so... we'll get the clan buffs
2) i will stick together with my friends anyways xD
3)i don't know... if it would be good to increase the level to join sky clan, maybe help ... not sure, but the system need a change

***Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...

1)i don't feel comfortable... at snake clan, that's the reason because i'm sky and i don't regreat my desition.
2) Dragons will be the weakest clan once more, not many ex dragons remain at Sky clan
3)I'm not 100% sure, that you give priority to the ex-players of clan sky(no afk alts) to return , so i guess that we have to wait a long time to back...
4) i'm sure that i won't help snakes ....

maybe i'm wrong ... but guess it's not the solution....
a lot of times Sky clan, had hard times, only a few players in hsb, wars,so on.... and although everything we went afloat, if we could do before ... why we couldnt now?
if you can... try to find another way, to delete the inactive players... if can't, well.. we got just bad luck.

umm... well thanks for ask our opinions




soo FOR or AGAINST? i see u have them both:).And also if u are AGAINST u should type only Cons i think..Same goes for PROS

echo
02-10-2012, 03:39 PM
I, [rush2die], [Level D9], [Clan sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.(unless I can stay aswell)

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)no more alts,sitters
2)sky will have pure loyal members
3)clan buffs as it was mean 2

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)I WILL HAVE TO LEAVE SKY!!
2)I DONT WANT TO LEAVE
3)snakes suck!

HELLUNIT
02-10-2012, 03:41 PM
I, [HELLUNIT], [Level D12 R1], [Royal Snake], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
1) alts will be removed from sky


cons:
1) alts will be on the other clans so..
2) only like 10 actives skys so no point to rollback them, skys need more ppl
3) would be better a time spended in wars or time spended in-game metod to join in sky
4) total rollback isnt good, some people want to stay, remember that maybe someone used cps to join, others waited a lot to get a chance to join in sky

btw i want to join feel free to join me when u want lol

HELLUNIT
02-10-2012, 03:48 PM
[QUOTE=MeLLoncoTTon;710098][B][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]

pone FOR o AGAINST xD

BlackDeath2
02-10-2012, 03:55 PM
Bucifal d12 tiger R2
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)will bring again the joy that we had it in the past
2)incrase the pvp because we go back to 3 clans and no one will have ally
3)some changes are good from time to time
3)

MeLLoncoTTon
02-10-2012, 04:23 PM
Everything got an pros and cons,that's my way that I have of see the things .... for that reason i've type more cons.
i want that they remember .. this is not the first time that sky clan got less people than another clans....

but i've type the pros , only because if the gms consider to close the clan, just for a few months ... I will keep playing just because my friends are going with me

anyways i forgot to said for or againts :P

Mar42
02-10-2012, 04:36 PM
Bucifal d12 tiger R2
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)will bring again the joy that we had it in the past
2)incrase the pvp because we go back to 3 clans and no one will have ally
3)some changes are good from time to time
3)


sky clan dont need aliance....
sky clan need good players ...Sky's truly

snakelu1
02-10-2012, 07:29 PM
I, [SkyLu], [Level R5] ][Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel That a total would be good Sky Rollback Because ...
1) kick alts
2) Would Have sky clan buff
3) .....

Cons:
I feel That a total rollback would be bad Sky Because ...
1) Do not want to play in another clan other than sky
2) I am sky clan for almost 3 years, from lvl a1 and never did rollback
3) Sky need not be closed, the real skys now stay in sky clan and we do not want to go to other clans.
4) The skys are fighting now more than ever in the wars, clan hsb, and we have a more united clan now, we do not need divide us all.
5) Some see in sky clan now a weak, but I really see a clan stronger than before, with few people, but all skys fighting together. Sky keep winning some wars, skys continue fight and we do not hide in hsb or wars, as other clans when they were low number the people, and skys completing his labys.

On the other hand I think if want help skys, gms would have to come and talk to some true skys and see what the clan needs and what the clan wants.
Thanks to all who did not leave sky and make this a great clan ,so even when we have hard times!!!!

Sorty
02-10-2012, 08:39 PM
(NIxa) , ( R6 ) , ( skyclan ) VOTE AGAINST SKY ROLLBACK

1)I dont want 2 be rollback from sky thats all i have 2 say...

Krishiel
02-10-2012, 08:45 PM
I, [SkyLu], [Level R5] ][Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel That a total would be good Sky Rollback Because ...
1) kick alts
2) Would Have sky clan buff
3) .....

Cons:
I feel That a total rollback would be bad Sky Because ...
1) Do not want to play in another clan other than sky
2) I am sky clan for almost 3 years, from lvl a1 and never did rollback
3) Sky need not be closed, the real skys now stay in sky clan and we do not want to go to other clans.
4) The skys are fighting now more than ever in the wars, clan hsb, and we have a more united clan now, we do not need divide us all.
5) Some see in sky clan now a weak, but I really see a clan stronger than before, with few people, but all skys fighting together. Sky keep winning some wars, skys continue fight and we do not hide in hsb or wars, as other clans when they were low number the people, and skys completing his labys.

On the other hand I think if want help skys, gms would have to come and talk to some true skys and see what the clan needs and what the clan wants.
Thanks to all who did not leave sky and make this a great clan ,so even when we have hard times!!!!

I, [LadyVero], [Level D2] ][Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

I don't have anything extra to say, she said everything I feel.

don't make the roll back we don't want be in another clan.

marshall331
02-10-2012, 08:48 PM
(NIxa) , ( R6 ) , ( skyclan ) VOTE AGAINST SKY ROLLBACK

1)I dont want 2 be rollback from sky thats all i have 2 say...

man got straight to the point :)

andreirc
02-10-2012, 09:07 PM
I, [Jugulator], [Level 145], [Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)-
2)-
3)-

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)I don't want to return to original clan.
2)If i will return to original clan im gonna lose friends.
3)

Rose
02-10-2012, 09:12 PM
I, [RoseThorn], [Level R6], [Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)Clears the clan of alts.
2)Allows other 3 clans to get balanced.
3)Might improve pvp and makes hsb much more interesting.

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)It would not allow my house members to be in the same clan, since sky is made up of tigers, snakes, and drags, people would be rolled back into a clan without people they want to stay with.
2)It might cause some people to become less active if they do not like their original clan.
3)When you decide to reopen sky, how can old sky members be sure that they will be brought back to sky clan if you manually transfer only based on cp? If they arent great at cp hunting, it would mean they cant get back into sky and stay in a clan they do not want to be in.

angelwings1
02-10-2012, 09:13 PM
I, [Ophelia], [R6], [Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) Great increase activity among all three clans.
2) Increase the potential of getting new players to TS2 due to having more community leaders in all three clans.
3) Clear up alts/inactive players and gives the opportunity for more active players to join Sky in the future

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) True Sky member are not comfortable with their original clan or any other clan and wish to remain in Sky.
2) Old Sky members may quit.
3) If we do a rollback I will miss my friends like NIxa and others who will end up at Tigers >.<

Sorty
02-10-2012, 09:26 PM
I, [Ophelia], [R6], [Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) Great increase activity among all three clans.
2) Increase the potential of getting new players to TS2 due to having more community leaders in all three clans.
3) Clear up alts/inactive players and gives the opportunity for more active players to join Sky in the future

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) True Sky member are not comfortable with their original clan or any other clan and wish to remain in Sky.
2) Old Sky members may quit.
3) If we do a rollback I will miss my friends like NIxa and others who will end up at Tigers >.<

aww :d

Mihaku1
02-10-2012, 09:28 PM
I, [Jiusheen], [Level R1], [Clan Tiger], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)Can't see any pros
2)
3)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) It will create super overpowered clan again as mostly D1+ will go to sky ( No alts, perm clan buffs)
2) Enormous imbalance of the game
3) Basic clans will be flooded with inactive players, alts, banned players which all will contribute to the Clan points and won't help their clans at all.

Kameni
02-10-2012, 10:07 PM
I, Drogado, r6, snake, vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) i will see some sky cry about the old clans
2) that means Snake and Drags with alliance again to fight tigers...
3)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) Tigers will get more active players
2) I appreciate some sky will stay in sky (most of ex-snakes)
3) if you are complaining about alts in sky clan... the "original" clans can complain bout that. some people worked to create a good alt there.

You should think about this, before you ruin the game with a massive transfer to tiger clan.

KenjiX
02-10-2012, 10:38 PM
I, [KenjiX], [Level r6], [Ancient Sky Clan], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) Sky clan will have no inactive players
2) No low level ALTS that make sky's clan points absolutly rediculous.
3) Fresh start, possibly no low levels, or really "noob" - new people who don't
understand ts2.

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) People who have spent 1 year + with sky clan don't want to be thrown out of the clan.
2) Not every clan will have the same chance to come back to sky clan
3) Many sky players have enemies, or better expression would be annoying people
that cannot be played with, only against.

Side note: I would like to point out, underline, bold the biggest fear, and frankly the decidion
changing fact, that current sky clan members might not be able to join sky clan without spending
bunch of CP/mokens/silver.
I would like to suggest the administration my suggestion if they will proceed with closing down sky
clan and reopening it.
Suggestion: Allow only {a1 +} characters with {20k CP +} in sky clan. The character have to have 20k cp
to enter the clan, once he or she have entered the clan the cp should remain on the character. (Im sure there are many
loop wholes in this suggestion) but hopefully this suggestion can be thrown into consideration table. Above all, every current d12
active sky member (who has logged in at least once a week) should be transfered to sky clan without CP restriction, by sending in the ticket.

If this ONE c.on can be sorted out, and all d12+ current ACTIVE sky members get a free pass to sky clan.
I'm all for cleaning the SKY CLAN. :)

Moirae
02-10-2012, 10:52 PM
I, Drogado, r6, snake, vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) i will see some sky cry about the old clans
2) that means Snake and Drags with alliance again to fight tigers...
3)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) Tigers will get more active players
2) I appreciate some sky will stay in sky (most of ex-snakes)
3) if you are complaining about alts in sky clan... the "original" clans can complain bout that. some people worked to create a good alt there.

You should think about this, before you ruin the game with a massive transfer to tiger clan.

+1 at the last part, this is a consequence of a xferement made uncontrolled

Destroy3r
02-10-2012, 10:54 PM
I, [Domain3r], [Level A5], [Clan Sky] Vote Against for Sky Rollback.
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)
2)
3)

Cons:
1) I Wanna stay in the Sky Clan.
2) The Sky Clan is good enough, but too many people join to Tiger Clan within no Reason..
3).No argument.

SaberKyle1
02-10-2012, 11:29 PM
I, [SaberKyle], [D1], [Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.
I agree with what Rose says

I, [RoseThorn], [Level R6], [Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)Clears the clan of alts.
2)Allows other 3 clans to get balanced.
3)Might improve pvp and makes hsb much more interesting.

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)It would not allow my house members to be in the same clan, since sky is made up of tigers, snakes, and drags, people would be rolled back into a clan without people they want to stay with.
2)It might cause some people to become less active if they do not like their original clan.
3)When you decide to reopen sky, how can old sky members be sure that they will be brought back to sky clan if you manually transfer only based on cp? If they arent great at cp hunting, it would mean they cant get back into sky and stay in a clan they do not want to be in.
I just want to add
4) base the sky transfer on cp is useless because player will buy mokens, mokens=ingame money, money=mounts and cp tickets, so they can transfer their alts again to sky clan...
5) if the problem is that a lot of ppl went to tiger (also because u put clan tranfer on 400 mokens and no more 4000), remember that there are tiger chars in sky clan yet, so i don't know if the rollback will truly make game balanced again...

PrettyBoi1
02-10-2012, 11:30 PM
(NIxa) , ( R6 ) , ( skyclan ) VOTE AGAINST SKY ROLLBACK

1)I dont want 2 be rollback from sky thats all i have 2 say...

vi neznate sta radite i kako cete se sjebat, ozbiljno

ghetuci1
02-10-2012, 11:47 PM
ShArk3R [D12-R0]-[Ancient Sky Clan] Vote AGAINST Sky Rollback

pros.../cons.....but acts:)

i feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good becouse:
1.sky have low number becouse "prouds members of sky"is in tigers as,s now
2.many a1-a33 alts
3.many ppl come in sky afther have fight in original clan
4.maybe sky not have many active ppl but this low number is like a familly for many of them
5.i grow up in this clan....i come here from a1(hard time)
6.what will be ts2 without sky clan?

Kyriakos
02-10-2012, 11:55 PM
I, [DeaDLyViTaL], [Level D12-R1], [Clan Tiger], vote FOR Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1)Sky clan will clean from alts
2)I might go sky clan too
3)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1)-
2)-
3)-

Just make manual transfer and we will all get to see the meaning of the tittle *Twelve sky 2: Rise of the Sky Clan*.

martrixx1
02-11-2012, 01:07 AM
I, [martrixx], [Level R1] ][Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel That a total would be good Sky Rollback Because ...
1) kick alts
2) Would Have sky clan buff
3) .....

Cons:
I feel That a total rollback would be bad Sky Because ...
1) Do not want to play in another clan other than sky
2) I am sky clan for almost 3 years, from lvl a1 and never did rollback
3) Sky need not be closed, the real skys now stay in sky clan and we do not want to go to other clans.
4) The skys are fighting now more than ever in the wars, clan hsb, and we have a more united clan now, we do not need divide us all.
5) Some see in sky clan now a weak, but I really see a clan stronger than before, with few people, but all skys fighting together. Sky keep winning some wars, skys continue fight and we do not hide in hsb or wars, as other clans when they were low number the people, and skys completing his labys.

On the other hand I think if want help skys, gms would have to come and talk to some true skys and see what the clan needs and what the clan wants.
Thanks to all who did not leave sky and make this a great clan ,so even when we have hard times!!!!

marshall331
02-11-2012, 01:08 AM
I, [SaberKyle], [D1], [Clan Sky], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.
I agree with what Rose says

I just want to add
4) base the sky transfer on cp is useless because player will buy mokens, mokens=ingame money, money=mounts and cp tickets, so they can transfer their alts again to sky clan...
5) if the problem is that a lot of ppl went to tiger (also because u put clan tranfer on 400 mokens and no more 4000), remember that there are tiger chars in sky clan yet, so i don't know if the rollback will truly make game balanced again...

In number 4 u state people will buy mokens for there alt well if its just say 20k like kenjiX said no ones gonna buy that much cp for an alt. If they do well so be it there helping the game by wasting money. Mokens keeps the game running only a few rich ppl would do that not 100 randoms i dont see how thats a problem.

KenjiX
02-11-2012, 01:40 AM
In number 4 u state people will buy mokens for there alt well if its just say 20k like kenjiX said no ones gonna buy that much cp for an alt. If they do well so be it there helping the game by wasting money. Mokens keeps the game running only a few rich ppl would do that not 100 randoms i dont see how thats a problem. Yes that was exactly my point, noone is gonna put 20k cp or 20k mokens on alt.

Rose
02-11-2012, 01:50 AM
Just like Kenji pointed out, if they wanna clean up sky clan from alts than I would accept it to be rolled back, but only if the ones who were rolled back are able to rejoin sky again. If they for example roll back lets say 10 r0-r6 skys, will those 10 skys get a free manual transfer back to sky clan? The group that is in sky currently has pretty good teamwork even tho we are small in number, and I dont mind it if they keep sky with small numbers since it keeps us more organized and not as many people rambo in war. The only problem we would have is with hsb's which will prevent us from having a fair hsb when there is only one party of skys usually there. I'm just wondering, many non sky clan members voted for the rollbacks, since sky is low in number, we have less people able to vote against the rollbacks, so will our opinions be weighted more compared to non-skyclan members? Oo

marshall331
02-11-2012, 02:57 AM
yes if we do get rolled back we want our spots since this isnt our fault u guys let in so many tigers we shouldnt be punished.. and like rose said i see lots off ppl wanting to clear out sky but all those people arent even in sky.. so my point of view is u see the sky clan members posting here we dont want to leave, if u do rollback everyone just put us back right away and we will stay as u can see we dont mind at all...

postonforums
02-11-2012, 02:58 AM
Dont forget that when the alts get xfered other clans will get flooded whit inactive banned and alt chars.
So it will fk up the clans since there are same inactive banned and alt chars in every clan.
Also if the requiremets to join sky clan is too high as 20k cp what do you think who will make that much?
If they do that like this this will leads to a sky clan whit only the most strongest ppls in it.
So in wars sky will be overpowered since other clans will might have more numbers but those would never can be compared to purple setters (mainly if they have wl or emp cape) whit 15% mounts.
Lets say after a while other clans will ahve only red maybe blue setters whit low gears and sky will have the most strongest pvpers from clans cuz tehy will be able to make that much cp in a short time.

bobby45601
02-11-2012, 03:22 AM
tbh if everyone is rerolled, the as the active skys said, we want to be sky again not in our ex clans cause we made the choice to go sky in the 1st place and then we;re rerolled cause people rage about sky? hardly fair and every war i now see 2 pts of good players upping the standard of pvp in the sky clan every war , i for one do not want this to be left unoticed and for them to quit cause they have to get alot of cp or spam mokens to get there rightful place back in the game cause of qqers, thats not fair and acceptable in my eyes. people have been sky members since a1 and are d12 r6s or sky for 2-3 years, we need a gm to see the active people over a week and then allow them to be placed in sky free of charge, i dont care about hsb i can live with -10% 24/7 its only 10% less dmg for pvm, but i dont wana see the good 10 d12s that show constantly for every war day in day out be stripped and refused a place in there own clan cause a bunch of non sky people want them out... so i call for the gm to analize the active players in sky over say 5 days - not a vgm cause there pretty useless imo, dont seem to help me out much but a real gm so he knows whats going on, not a vgm which can say noones active or 6 d12s are active when 10 are.

KenjiX
02-11-2012, 03:31 AM
Dont forget that when the alts get xfered other clans will get flooded whit inactive banned and alt chars.
So it will fk up the clans since there are same inactive banned and alt chars in every clan.
Also if the requiremets to join sky clan is too high as 20k cp what do you think who will make that much?
If they do that like this this will leads to a sky clan whit only the most strongest ppls in it.
So in wars sky will be overpowered since other clans will might have more numbers but those would never can be compared to purple setters (mainly if they have wl or emp cape) whit 15% mounts.
Lets say after a while other clans will ahve only red maybe blue setters whit low gears and sky will have the most strongest pvpers from clans cuz tehy will be able to make that much cp in a short time. I believe some sort of balance preventions would have to be implemented. Get rid of transfer to sky clan option at places thats step 1. Introduce manual transfer only, thats step 2. And step 3 should be calculating "what would happen if we let this person transfer to sky clan."

postonforums
02-11-2012, 04:43 AM
lets c how 2 players upping the war after MTB bug got investigated ^^

Marshall
02-11-2012, 05:25 AM
XxCaramaLxX, [R1], [Sky Clan], vote AGAINST Sky Rollback.

I want to stay SKY.. I dont want to go anywhere... but SKY..

babe011
02-11-2012, 05:52 AM
SHIRKANY (demonXXX) d12 (r12) votes Sky Rollback

hi guys


Pros:
I feel That a total would be good Sky Rollback Because ...
1) kick alts
2) Would Have sky clan buff
3) .....

tigs is now nice but my home is Sky and i think hen sky get rerolled i come back then.
Sky´s is now a realy alt clan. i missed my friend in sky Nixa and all other i hope they make it realy fast then i come back but when not i stay at tigs i dont want stay in an alt clan

geats Shirkany (demonXXX)

SaberKyle1
02-11-2012, 08:43 AM
Yes that was exactly my point, noone is gonna put 20k cp or 20k mokens on alt.

Are u sure??? i Know that there are people who buy a lot of mokens each mounth, and i think that they wont have problems to use those mokens for 1 mounth to buy cps for their alt...
I understand that they need mokens buyers, i know it since the game started, but for example i dont buy them but i play the same, even if i see all those sitters with full elite set, pets, 15% mounts etc., while i just play with what i can buy selling what i find while training...but that's not the problem...
The problem is that those ppl will make 20k cp easly, while i'll need a lot of time, and i think it's unfair that they can go to sky again soon, while i need to work a lot again, beacuase i already worked a lot once, when there was no 3x exp every day, and there werent all mokens promotions or cp events etc...

marshall331
02-11-2012, 09:05 AM
well if your alrdy in sky clan they should allow skys active members in for free since they inconvenienced us in the first place and caused this problem we shouldnt have to suffer and if thats not the case and i have to stay snake i wont even play and ik other sky that feel the same so its up to mayn...

OZ
02-11-2012, 09:05 AM
( EviLDacZ ) , ( D12 R0 ) , ( Sky Clan ) VOTE AGAINST SKY ROLLBACK

1) I know u will transfer us all to our org. clan no matter what we write here. All i want if u do that is free transfer to sky
im sky for like 3 years and i rollback 2 times for like 1-2 h becouse i wanted to dragons come to sky. i dont want to go to drag becouse then i need to start over again geting friends and stuff and all my old friends will be in other clans so im AGAINST.
idc remove alts and baned players or poeple who didnt play for like 1.5 year i want to stay sky. sky in <3

PrettyBoi1
02-11-2012, 09:08 AM
( EviLDacZ ) , ( D12 R0 ) , ( Sky Clan ) VOTE AGAINST SKY ROLLBACK

1) I know u will transfer us all to our org. clan no matter what we write here. All i want if u do that is free transfer to sky
im sky for like 3 years and i rollback 2 times for like 1-2 h becouse i wanted to dragons come to sky. i dont want to go to drag becouse then i need to start over again geting friends and stuff and all my old friends will be in other clans so im AGAINST.
idc remove alts and baned players or poeple who didnt play for like 1.5 year i want to stay sky. sky in <3


bagra vi ste fakat pukli

OZ
02-11-2012, 09:14 AM
bagra vi ste fakat pukli

ti puši znas! i sam znas kolko je meni tesko napravit i postic nest u ovoj igrici ja ne dobivam stvari od igraca koji su quitali i nema boga da nakupim 10k ili 20k cp ova s ovim jebenim ringom od 90% a nemam novaca da si kupim mokene da sve napravim 120+

sorry for lil croatian ( u have google translator ) xD

PrettyBoi1
02-11-2012, 09:42 AM
ti puši znas! i sam znas kolko je meni tesko napravit i postic nest u ovoj igrici ja ne dobivam stvari od igraca koji su quitali i nema boga da nakupim 10k ili 20k cp ova s ovim jebenim ringom od 90% a nemam novaca da si kupim mokene da sve napravim 120+

sorry for lil croatian ( u have google translator ) xD
ok,...da ja sam dobio sve sta imam free i cp i sve, btw se secas ko ti je blue set pomogo raidt?
afk u waru ti nije rjesenje, emp sam dobio free nista vise, mokene naravno spammam 0/24 glavno da neam kaj za jest, daj molimte, on ce vas aktivne sve nazad prebacit al ajde,,,


p.s. dok sam ja imo gold set pow i ja smo ti od naseg starog geara napravili blue, tako da lijepo molim

KILLERTITS1
02-11-2012, 10:49 AM
Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) Sky will get rid off the alts.
2) Sky won't be overpowered.
3) It will be a new start.

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) 12sky2 will be mainly a fight between tiger and snake clan.
2) Some skys don't wanna go to their main clans.
3) It will be more unbalanced.

loki1231
02-11-2012, 11:26 AM
I, AyakaSui, [Level D12 r12], [Clan Tiger], vote FOR Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) tons off alts must get out from Sky
2) in HSB not even work the half time for repair what Spys or Reseter done and in Labys no
more 5 Tanker for 100 PPL it makes no fun
3) after the Rollback the Alts are a burden off their own Clan (give them an easy way to delete)

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) a few off the old real Skys must go too and have Problems to get back to Sky
2)no reasom
3)no reasom

and a litle sugest make the join Level higher and it must better controlled who join
(Game activity Level CPPoints on Char ) to get save that not every1 can easy rejoin and make same Problems like
before

and i would make an apeel to fairness People when u use Alts play them with same Attetion than ur main Char
if u are on a Dragon feel as a Dragon ...... same for all Clans only example

KenjiX
02-11-2012, 12:05 PM
Are u sure??? i Know that there are people who buy a lot of mokens each mounth, and i think that they wont have problems to use those mokens for 1 mounth to buy cps for their alt...
I understand that they need mokens buyers, i know it since the game started, but for example i dont buy them but i play the same, even if i see all those sitters with full elite set, pets, 15% mounts etc., while i just play with what i can buy selling what i find while training...but that's not the problem...
The problem is that those ppl will make 20k cp easly, while i'll need a lot of time, and i think it's unfair that they can go to sky again soon, while i need to work a lot again, beacuase i already worked a lot once, when there was no 3x exp every day, and there werent all mokens promotions or cp events etc... Well, if they would do something like this, they would just help the server. :D

SaberKyle1
02-11-2012, 02:18 PM
Well, if they would do something like this, they would just help the server. :D

i make it simple:
I and some other skys dont wanna pay with a rollback because of a main error...
clan transfer at 400 mokens instead of 4000 is not a promotion, it's almost free...
and then i dont understand why skys who went to tiger answer to this post if we are in this situation because of their transfer too

NightHawk
02-11-2012, 02:30 PM
I, [StammRein], [Deity 12], [Clan Tiger], vote FOR Sky Rollback.

Pros:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be good because...
1) Sky's CP is currently mainly made of alts, we could reset the cp to gain temporary "balance"
2) I'd like to see which clan has the most people in sky.

Cons:
I feel that a total Sky Rollback would be bad because...
1) People that actually want to stay in sky are getting forced to get back to their original clan.
However, this could be solved by letting them manually transfer back in, like saying they have 1 week to tell a GM via Ticket that they want back to sky.

Kyriakos
02-11-2012, 03:42 PM
I thick CP transfer isnt the solution.
There is CP share and mount drops = 500 cp each mount.(exploit) to get in sky clan = more work for Mayn to search who abuse it and who not.
I recommend remove the sky transfer from CP list in to total manual transfer if everyone wants pure justice and just be active for real.

HELLUNIT
02-11-2012, 04:16 PM
1) People that actually want to stay in sky are getting forced to get back to their original clan.
However, this could be solved by letting them manually transfer back in, like saying they have 1 week to tell a GM via Ticket that they want back to sky. +1

PrettyBoi1
02-11-2012, 04:20 PM
1) People that actually want to stay in sky are getting forced to get back to their original clan.
However, this could be solved by letting them manually transfer back in, like saying they have 1 week to tell a GM via Ticket that they want back to sky. +1


haleluzja u picku materinu ffs

HELLUNIT
02-11-2012, 04:56 PM
o.o

Mar42
02-11-2012, 07:32 PM
is obvious that all persons that are not sky clan want rollback,
is an injustice to ask the opinion of other players that are not sky clan
All clans have alts, Why sky clan should not have alts?

Mihaku1
02-11-2012, 07:39 PM
I have just one question for those who are for manual transfer which will result in transferring only the most active players.
- Why only Sky Clan should be cleaned out of alts, inactive players and other clans don't?

We all here are aware that only D12s count during HSBs. Even though 2 x A33 players contribute 66 Clan Points and one D12 contribute 69 Clan Points they are no match for this D12 player (frankly not even if they were 10 they would). So why only basic clans should be burdened with this useless Clan Points?

Kyriakos
02-11-2012, 11:17 PM
I have just one question for those who are for manual transfer which will result in transferring only the most active players.
- Why only Sky Clan should be cleaned out of alts, inactive players and other clans don't?

We all here are aware that only D12s count during HSBs. Even though 2 x A33 players contribute 66 Clan Points and one D12 contribute 69 Clan Points they are no match for this D12 player (frankly not even if they were 10 they would). So why only basic clans should be burdened with this useless Clan Points?

What ever happen in this game is user`s fault.
Sky clan and every clan should be clean from alts in the first place.
This must happen to Sky clan because sky clan cant start players from level 1 and that clan is doomed.
All other clans can grid from level 1
If we users didnt abuse the clan points system in the first place this would never happen.
So the only thing discent thing left to do is let the sky clan get clean and the people will have to stop abuse the point system since it will be useless and all cp points will be only for the looks and clan buffs.
I could go on and on but wise people will get the point.

KenjiX
02-11-2012, 11:54 PM
tbh the reason I moved to ts2 was sky clan. It was supposed to be the clan that everyone wanted to go to, but nobody really could, only those "strong", "active", "dedicated" players, who had to prove their rightfulness to be a member of Ancient Sky Clan. Ancient Sky Clan is supposed to be CLAN FOR GODS. I would love to reboot sky clan, and that gm would manually transfer people who agree to be in the clan permanently.
I thought I had friends fighting for the sky clan side by side with many other players. Unluckily, many of them saw the opportunity to get more silver, and frankly got bored sitting in the same clan, left sky with 10 people. And now the same people I held one of the closest friends in-game, wiping the floors with me 20 times per war. I really, honestly hope I wouldn't have to play with those guys ever again (on the same side). Of course I'm not gonna point out the names, but I just wanted to take this of my chest. I want sky roll back item out of the game, if this sky reboot will proceed. And of course put me back to sky free of charge, I've been in sky every day for the last 3 years - since i was a14(day 1 of sky clan).

angelwings1
02-12-2012, 02:04 AM
tbh the reason I moved to ts2 was sky clan. It was supposed to be the clan that everyone wanted to go to, but nobody really could, only those "strong", "active", "dedicated" players, who had to prove their rightfulness to be a member of Ancient Sky Clan. Ancient Sky Clan is supposed to be CLAN FOR GODS. I would love to reboot sky clan, and that gm would manually transfer people who agree to be in the clan permanently.
I thought I had friends fighting for the sky clan side by side with many other players. Unluckily, many of them saw the opportunity to get more silver, and frankly got bored sitting in the same clan, left sky with 10 people. And now the same people I held one of the closest friends in-game, wiping the floors with me 20 times per war. I really, honestly hope I wouldn't have to play with those guys ever again (on the same side). Of course I'm not gonna point out the names, but I just wanted to take this of my chest. I want sky roll back item out of the game, if this sky reboot will proceed. And of course put me back to sky free of charge, I've been in sky every day for the last 3 years - since i was a14(day 1 of sky clan).

If we do go forth with this rollback, I did request to GMs in our discussion that we do a manual transfer instead of opening sky to the clan with the highest clan points.

sobsket
02-12-2012, 02:51 AM
i have said this before in my post,
i suggest that in the future people from any clan can join sky if they have a certain CP requierment and also a merits requierment to prove that they are active, upon hand moving them to sky the cp won`t be deleted and same for the merits.
this way all clans are opened towards sky at all times and alts won`t be able to invade it.

snakelu1
02-12-2012, 10:52 AM
tbh the reason I moved to ts2 was sky clan. It was supposed to be the clan that everyone wanted to go to, but nobody really could, only those "strong", "active", "dedicated" players, who had to prove their rightfulness to be a member of Ancient Sky Clan. Ancient Sky Clan is supposed to be CLAN FOR GODS. I would love to reboot sky clan, and that gm would manually transfer people who agree to be in the clan permanently.
I thought I had friends fighting for the sky clan side by side with many other players. Unluckily, many of them saw the opportunity to get more silver, and frankly got bored sitting in the same clan, left sky with 10 people. And now the same people I held one of the closest friends in-game, wiping the floors with me 20 times per war. I really, honestly hope I wouldn't have to play with those guys ever again (on the same side). Of course I'm not gonna point out the names, but I just wanted to take this of my chest. I want sky roll back item out of the game, if this sky reboot will proceed. And of course put me back to sky free of charge, I've been in sky every day for the last 3 years - since i was a14(day 1 of sky clan).

+ 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
But dont close skys please !!!! we want stay in sky we are really skys and dont want stay in other clan!!!

PrettyBoi1
02-12-2012, 12:47 PM
+ 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
But dont close skys please !!!! we want stay in sky we are really skys and dont want stay in other clan!!!

u will get transfered back omg XD

bobby45601
02-12-2012, 01:46 PM
u will get transfered back omg XD

says the one who tranfers to tiger, and has a siggy saying sky clan proud lol should change it to lame tiger clan XD

marshall331
02-12-2012, 02:00 PM
says the one who tranfers to tiger, and has a siggy saying sky clan proud lol should change it to lame tiger clan XD

haha +1

PrettyBoi1
02-12-2012, 10:26 PM
says the one who tranfers to tiger, and has a siggy saying sky clan proud lol should change it to lame tiger clan XD

yes i say he will get transfeered back lol? u got some prob with that?

p.s. sigy stays

Mar42
02-12-2012, 10:55 PM
+ 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
But dont close skys please !!!! we want stay in sky we are really skys and dont want stay in other clan!!!

yeaaaaaaaa plisssssssssssssssss im cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F0rEvER
02-13-2012, 02:40 PM
says the one who tranfers to tiger, and has a siggy saying sky clan proud lol should change it to lame tiger clan XD
i like it.... xD

KenjiX
02-14-2012, 03:25 AM
I heard some bad news about this sky rollback, I would like to ask someone in charge, are we going to be kicked out of sky clan, and if yes will we have to pay anything to get back into our clan(sky)? Asking on behalf (15 active sky members)

Mar42
02-14-2012, 03:31 AM
I heard some bad news about this sky rollback, I would like to ask someone in charge, are we going to be kicked out of sky clan, and if yes will we have to pay anything to get back into our clan(sky)? Asking on behalf (15 active sky members)

yea gm plis idont kicked out the sky clan plss plsssss =::::::(